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franklanit
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 Posted: 01/11/2017 10:34 Post subject: Problem how to Connect PG/PC to HMI Operators panel. |
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Hi everyone,
I am new about siemens programming, can you help me to solve my problem.
I have to reset the password of a HMI project, but my problem how to do it.
1. how to setup connection on PG/PC to Siemens HMI Operators Panel?
2. how to backup thee existing program inside the Operators panel?
3. How to restore the program from PG/PC to Operators panel?
I am using usb adapter A2/MPI.
Please I need your expertise.
THANK YOU!
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ntron
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| Posted: 01/11/2017 11:29 Post subject: Re: Problem how to Connect PG/PC to HMI Operators panel. |
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| franklanit wrote: | Hi everyone,
I am new about siemens programming, can you help me to solve my problem.
I have to reset the password of a HMI project, but my problem how to do it.
1. how to setup connection on PG/PC to Siemens HMI Operators Panel?
2. how to backup thee existing program inside the Operators panel?
3. How to restore the program from PG/PC to Operators panel?
I am using usb adapter A2/MPI.
Please I need your expertise.
THANK YOU! |
What type of Panel?
What HMI software? |
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franklanit
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| Posted: 02/11/2017 06:48 Post subject: |
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Hi ntron,
The panel is OP177B PN/DP T/K-6CSTN
the software is Wincc Flexible 2008 sp3.
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ntron
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| Posted: 02/11/2017 10:29 Post subject: |
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| franklanit wrote: | Hi ntron,
The panel is OP177B PN/DP T/K-6CSTN
the software is Wincc Flexible 2008 sp3. |
Read carefully
https://cache.industry.siemens.com/dl/files/461/21084461/att_82592/v1/hmi_tp177a_tp177b_op177b_operating_instructions_en_US_en-US.pdf
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/pd/90312?pdti=td&pnid=14730&lc=en-WW
How do you backup/restore with a Windows-based panel?
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/document/28928853/
How do you back transfer the projects of an operator panel and what should you watch out for?
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/document/21907703/
https://cache.industry.siemens.com/dl/files/868/21847868/att_862439/v2/21847868_hmi_panels_slots_en.pdf
https://cache.industry.siemens.com/dl/files/703/21907703/att_75459/v1/21907703_back_transfer_description_e.pdf
Uploading only possible, if the Transfer of the current project file from the configuration computer to the operating unit must be performed using the Upload option "Enable backtransfer"
If have misunderstandings put on here... |
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franklanit
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| Posted: 06/11/2017 09:30 Post subject: |
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Hi ntron,
I already backup/and restore the HMI project,
I do the backup and restore the project to reset the password on each user, but still the password wasn't reset.
can you help me for this problem, HOW TO RESET THE PASSWORD OF SIEMENS HMI PANEL.
the panel is OP177B
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ntron
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| Posted: 06/11/2017 10:41 Post subject: |
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Find password of the project with one of these tools
[URL=https://userscloud.com/jy1ebdnshs3a]FlexPwl1.rar - 130 KB[/URL]
[URL=https://userscloud.com/1vnskdg7alcn]PWLAnalyzer.rar - 644 KB[/URL]
or make a new project with new user and password then copy the PData from new project to your project in OP panel and you'll have have new user with new password |
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franklanit
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| Posted: 06/11/2017 11:50 Post subject: |
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"make a new project with new user and password then copy the PData from new project to your project in OP panel and you'll have have new user with new password"
you have a step by step procedure for this method?
the panel is OP177B color PN/DP
can i use the wincc flexible 2008 for this type of panel?
YOUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED
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atto
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| Posted: 06/11/2017 13:41 Post subject: |
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| franklanit wrote: | "make a new project with new user and password then copy the PData from new project to your project in OP panel and you'll have have new user with new password"
you have a step by step procedure for this method?
the panel is OP177B color PN/DP
can i use the wincc flexible 2008 for this type of panel?
YOUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED
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Why do not use this below procedure as long as you have the project..
How do you do an "Operating system update" (OS update) or "Reset to factory settings" on operator panels?
Even if the OS is the same make an overwrite
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/document/19701610/how-do-you-do-an-operating-system-update
Read this
https://cache.industry.siemens.com/dl/files/610/19701610/att_75320/v1/19701610_wincc_flexible_e.pdf
Of course OP177B color PN/DP is in WinCC Flexible SP3 has this.
https://cache.industry.siemens.com/dl/files/389/21742389/att_57799/v2/wincc_flexible_version_e.xls?download=true
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ntron
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| Posted: 06/11/2017 14:37 Post subject: |
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Well I saw atto put method..I do not know if works but it's possible...
The other method as I said is as follows:
1 Upload complete backup from the OP using Prosave.
2 Realizate a new project using WinCC flexible with the new user adminstration settings and with empty screens. and download it on the OP.
3 Use prosave again to make a backup image for "User Management"
4 You can select "User Management" in backup mask of the prosave program.
5 Then download again the orignal image you have uploaded in the first step.
6 Then download the backup image of "user management" on the OP.
Now you have the same software with the new administration settings. |
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franklanit
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| Posted: 07/11/2017 13:55 Post subject: |
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Hi ntron,
I already made the autentic restoration of the project to reset the password, the problem before was the file backup is .psb, and i cannot edit the project.
Last question:
how to backup the HMI project, which the output file is .hmi, not the .psb file.
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