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Parameters of SIMOREG DC-Master to SINAMICS DCM parameters

 
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PostPosted: 16/11/2017 20:11    Post subject: Parameters of SIMOREG DC-Master to SINAMICS DCM parameters Reply with quote

I need to replace controlled via PROFIBUS DP drive SIMOREG DC-Master 6RA7078 the drive SINAMICS DCM 6RA8078.
Using Drive Monitor c 6RA70 downloaded dnl file. Please help me with advice or link to information on this issue: how to automatically or manually convert the drive parameter 6RA70 settings 6RA80, including PROFIBUS DP, in order for them to upload with STARTER to the drive SINAMICS DCM 6RA8078 ? Is there any step by step guide on this conversion ? Or please share the experience.
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PostPosted: 16/11/2017 21:13    Post subject: Re: Parameters of SIMOREG DC-Master to SINAMICS DCM paramete Reply with quote

yahontov wrote:
I need to replace controlled via PROFIBUS DP drive SIMOREG DC-Master 6RA7078 the drive SINAMICS DCM 6RA8078.
Using Drive Monitor c 6RA70 downloaded dnl file. Please help me with advice or link to information on this issue: how to automatically or manually convert the drive parameter 6RA70 settings 6RA80, including PROFIBUS DP, in order for them to upload with STARTER to the drive SINAMICS DCM 6RA8078 ? Is there any step by step guide on this conversion ? Or please share the experience.



MICROMASTER 4 (MM4): Transfering projects from DriveMonitor into STARTER
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/document/32582476/
This example is for Micromaster but can use for Sinamics also.
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/attachments/32582476/pdf_projects_drivemonitor_to_starter_en_v2.pdf
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/attachments/32582476/executednl.zip
SINAMICS DCM DC Converter Migration Guide
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/attachments/109474842/SINAMICS-DC-MASTER-Migration-Guide_EN.pdf

How can I perform quick commissioning on a SINAMICS DCM ?
Please proceed as follows:
1.Go online with STARTER.
2.Set the required 15 parameters using the expert list according section 8.2 of the operating instructions.
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/attachments/109478252/manual-Control-Module_en.pdf
3.Perform the optimization runs.
4. Set the parameters for the bus connection.
5. Copy RAM to ROM
(press the P button on the BOP20 for 3 seconds)
6. Done
Alternatively, commissioning can be carried out with the BOP20 or AOP30.
The whole process takes around 30 minutes.
Note:
Exchange of the device can get performed by use of a memory card.
On „Power ON“ the parameters get read from the memory card but is not your case.
Follow these instructions and keep in mind What firmware come with Sinamics?
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/attachments/26117006/selection-guide-sinamics-dcm-simoreg.pptx
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/attachments/26117006/_0Replace_SIMOREG_by_SINAMICS_DCM_DE_EN.xls
Maybe you have to make some adjustments...
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PostPosted: 16/11/2017 22:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the number of parameters SINAMICS DCM are quite different than those of the drive SIMOREG DC-Master !
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PostPosted: 17/11/2017 09:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

yahontov wrote:
But the number of parameters SINAMICS DCM are quite different than those of the drive SIMOREG DC-Master !


Maybe I did not make myself clear enough.
A migration with "one click" is not possible, you must take step by step.
You have in migration guide how to make rewiring from the old to the new drive.
Convert the old project for having the same environment for reading correctly the "technological parameters"
Then a new projects must be made with new drive and adapt parameters and commissioning..
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PostPosted: 19/11/2017 06:53    Post subject: 6RA70 to 6RA80 Reply with quote

varella wrote:
yahontov wrote:
But the number of parameters SINAMICS DCM are quite different than those of the drive SIMOREG DC-Master !


Maybe I did not make myself clear enough.
A migration with "one click" is not possible, you must take step by step.
You have in migration guide how to make rewiring from the old to the new drive.
Convert the old project for having the same environment for reading correctly the "technological parameters"
Then a new projects must be made with new drive and adapt parameters and commissioning..


Thanks for the feedback. To me the way it seemed.
But, turning to manual conversion, I faced the fact that I do not understand how native drive works in a special PROFIBUS DP.
The control signals in the "Control word and status word" is associated with the PROFIBUS option only
P666 = B3107 1ST PZD 7 CB/TB1 - control feedback, i.e., with the reset fail with PROFIBUS (?). I actually expected signals at the network management bits 0 (OFF1), 1 (OFF2) 2 (OFF3) and(or) other.
Speed reference: where the reference PROFIBUS'the value of the speed ? In the "Digital setpoints" P433 = K11 Main setpoint, i.e., from the analog input 4-5. I was expecting something like: P433 = K3002 2ND PZD CB/TB1 ! In any other windows no connections of drive parameters with the 2ND PZD CB/TB1.
How to be here ? What to carry in SINAMICS DCM ?
How to attach native dnl file ?
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PostPosted: 19/11/2017 09:11    Post subject: Re: 6RA70 to 6RA80 Reply with quote

P648 = 9 - bit control.
P654 = B1 Fixed value 1.
How will start the drive via PROFIBUS ?
It would start if it was installed: P654 = 1ST PZD 0 B3100 CB/TB1.
And with the speed reference ? Also, in my opinion, there is no control from PROFIBUS.
Then why PROFIBUS ? Only to reset the error ?
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PostPosted: 20/11/2017 17:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read DCM documentation on links below post.
What do you use Step7 or TIA Portal?
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PostPosted: 13/07/2018 19:24    Post subject: SIMOREG 70 Reply with quote

SIMOREG70

With product family SIMOREG you install the drive data for
SIMOREG DC MASTER
V1.0, V1.1, V1.2, V1.3, V1.4, V1.5, V1.6, V1.7, V1.8, V1.9, V2.0, V2.1, V2.2, V3.1, V3.2
SIMOREG 6RA24
V2.3, V2.4
SIMOTRAS HD
V1.5, V1.6, V1.7, V1.8, V1.9, V2.0, V2.1, V2.2, V3.1, V3.2

http://www.mediafire.com/file/9j7b9v1jnevhndh/simoreg70v32-des.zip
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