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Need help opening backup with ROBOGUIDE, old version

 
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PostPosted: 08/06/2020 15:29    Post subject: Need help opening backup with ROBOGUIDE, old version Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm working in a project where I need to modifiy (not heavy modifications, but...) an old existing FANUC robot, M-410iB/160 with a R-J3iB controller.

The problem is that, although I have a backup (*.TP, *.DT, *.SV, ...), I can't open it with my oldest ROBOGUIDE version (6.40).

When I try to "Create a Robot from a file backup" in a new cell, the error showed is:

Code:
The file backup requires version V6.10 which is not supported.


The BACKDATE.DT file shows this information:

Code:
Version: V6.10P/70    09/26/2003

1A05B-2400-H510
1A05B-2400-H521
1A05B-2400-H542
1A05B-2400-H791
1A05B-2400-H930
1A05B-2400-J618
1A05B-2400-J751
Z


Can someone help me out? Maybe upload an older version of ROBOGUIDE?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: 09/06/2020 20:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never saw this controller version in Roboguide, even in older versions.

But You can try do it two ways.

1) go to backdate.dt file and change V6.10/70 to the correspondent version You have on Your Roboguide. You maybe will get some errors, but I think RG will produse the cell.

2) You can build a new cell with 6.40 software, and upload just the programs and some system files on it.
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PostPosted: 09/06/2020 21:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can try to find Fanuc WinOLPC or OLPCPro (maybe someone here have it).
With that program you can edit TP files in a aparte editor (binary TP editor) and i guess also some systema and confic files.
For more info search for WinOPLC and OLPCPro

I remember in old times to see some peoppleusing it (with controller versions less than 6.40)
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PostPosted: 11/06/2020 23:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

fotamecus wrote:
Never saw this controller version in Roboguide, even in older versions.

But You can try do it two ways.

1) go to backdate.dt file and change V6.10/70 to the correspondent version You have on Your Roboguide. You maybe will get some errors, but I think RG will create the cell.

2) You can build a new cell with 6.40 software, and upload just the programs and some system files on it.



About 1), I have tried it before, but had some tools errors...

2), I will try next week. What do you think is better to do, via FTP, PCMCIA, ...? What is the best way to do it, in sense of get the most "complete" backup, not only programs?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: 11/06/2020 23:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

electro wrote:
You can try to find Fanuc WinOLPC or OLPCPro (maybe someone here have it).
With that program you can edit TP files in a deosebit editor (binary TP editor) and i guess also some systema and confic files.
For more info search for WinOPLC and OLPCPro

I remember in old times to see some peoppleusing it (with controller versions less than 6.40)


Thanks, I hope someone have this tools, is complicated to get, I will try.
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PostPosted: 12/06/2020 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

the întocmai name of the tool you need to find is WinTPE Editor. Im dont know if the tool is included in OlpcPRO or WinOLPC.
you can do a google search to see some image screens shoots of the progam.
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PostPosted: 12/06/2020 16:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I've requested it on the software forum. It's very difficult to find old Fanuc software.
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PostPosted: 12/06/2020 20:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the exactly version of Your Roboguide?

Some versions came with 6.22 controller. Is way closer to 6.10 than 6.40. Maybe You can give this a try.
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PostPosted: 13/06/2020 10:40    Post subject: Re: Need help opening backup with ROBOGUIDE, old version Reply with quote

rperezm_mpp wrote:
Hi,

I'm working in a project where I need to modifiy (not heavy modifications, but...) an old existing FANUC robot, M-410iB/160 with a R-J3iB controller.

The problem is that, although I have a backup (*.TP, *.DT, *.SV, ...), I can't open it with my oldest ROBOGUIDE version (6.40).

When I try to "Create a Robot from a file backup" in a new cell, the error showed is:

Code:
The file backup requires version V6.10 which is not supported.


The BACKDATE.DT file shows this information:

Code:
Version: V6.10P/70    09/26/2003

1A05B-2400-H510
1A05B-2400-H521
1A05B-2400-H542
1A05B-2400-H791
1A05B-2400-H930
1A05B-2400-J618
1A05B-2400-J751
Z


Can someone help me out? Maybe upload an older version of ROBOGUIDE?

Thanks in advance.


http://plc.myforum.ro/roboguide-631-vt12934.html
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PostPosted: 13/06/2020 12:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried V6.31, but the oldest version included into is v6.22.

And in v6.31 I can't create a cell from an upload (I can in V6.40), or maybe I don't know where is this option.

Any other suggestions? Thanks!
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PostPosted: 13/06/2020 15:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

rperezm_mpp wrote:
I have tried V6.31, but the oldest version included into is v6.22.

And in v6.31 I can't create a cell from an upload (I can in V6.40), or maybe I don't know where is this option.

Any other suggestions? Thanks!


I've used WinOlpc in the past, but it didn't work very well with R-J3iB backups. And OlpcPro is bundle with Roboguide.

6.10, 6.22, 6.31 and 6.40 software are from R-J3iB controller generation.

Anyway, I remember there is a huge difference between the first and the last versions. The last versions (6.40, if I recall) support iPendants and I think You would stumble on compatibility issues.

If You don't mind sharing Your backup, I can try to perform some tests here.
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