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turbokinetic Junior 2

Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 23
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Posted: 09/03/2014 02:59 Post subject: Basic question - Simatic S7-1200 / Simatic Touch panel |
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Hey guys. I have a very basic question. I'll explain the reason for the question first.
I have a good amount of experience with Allen-Bradley SLC5/04, Logix 5000, and their HMI software PanelBuilder and RSView. I have not ever before used Simatic software.
In other words, I have a very strong working working knowledge of programming and panel design, but no experience with Simatic.
I have a panel with a Simatic S7-1200 PLC and a small Simatic Touch HMI. The panel is stand-alone and does not have any external SCADA or other network connections.
This panel was built by a company who is not able to provide a competent technician to modify some timers and simple logic problems.
Here's the question. What do I need to do, with Step7 TIA Portal V12, to connect and read-back the existing program from the PLC and HMI?
As I said, this is a VERY basic question and I apologize for being such a NOOB.
I have watched tutorials on Simatic Step7 from Siemens, but they don't go into the details of read-back of an existing program.
There is a possibility of getting the source code from the autentic panel builder, however I will not be sure it is correct and matched to what's in the unit. So I would want to read-back and save what's there now.
If anyone has a video of this, or any step-by-step instructions it would be very much appreciated.
Sincerely,
David |
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selftester Member 2


Joined: 10 Aug 2013 Posts: 430
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Posted: 09/03/2014 11:21 Post subject: Re: Basic question - Simatic S7-1200 / Simatic Touch panel |
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| turbokinetic wrote: | Hey guys. I have a very basic question. I'll explain the reason for the question first.
I have a good amount of experience with Allen-Bradley SLC5/04, Logix 5000, and their HMI software PanelBuilder and RSView. I have not ever before used Simatic software.
In other words, I have a very strong working working knowledge of programming and panel design, but no experience with Simatic.
I have a panel with a Simatic S7-1200 PLC and a small Simatic Touch HMI. The panel is stand-alone and does not have any external SCADA or other network connections.
This panel was built by a company who is not able to provide a competent technician to modify some timers and simple logic problems.
Here's the question. What do I need to do, with Step7 TIA Portal V12, to connect and read-back the existing program from the PLC and HMI?
As I said, this is a VERY basic question and I apologize for being such a NOOB.
I have watched tutorials on Simatic Step7 from Siemens, but they don't go into the details of read-back of an existing program.
There is a possibility of getting the source code from the autentic panel builder, however I will not be sure it is correct and matched to what's in the unit. So I would want to read-back and save what's there now.
If anyone has a video of this, or any step-by-step instructions it would be very much appreciated.
Sincerely,
David |
What is exactly the type of the HMI Panel? |
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turbokinetic Junior 2

Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 23
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Posted: 09/03/2014 16:01 Post subject: |
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I'm going to hopefully go back to the location of the panel today or tomorrow to get all information. It's a Simatic Touch but as for the tip number I didn't record that.
I didn't get all the info because at first I thought someone else was going to fix it.  |
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turbokinetic Junior 2

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Posted: 10/03/2014 03:43 Post subject: |
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Ok, I went back to the station with this panel and tried to connect Step 7 TIA Portal to the system.
I was able to see and connect to the PLC and HMI, but the PLC program blocks all had a red X and the system told me I needed Step 7 V.11, instead of V.12. So I am installing V.11 and will go back tomorrow.
The HMI would not allow any online actions, and showed as a "non programmable" network module.
I'm learning quick that this software is very picky about versions. I probably need to install every version up to the latest.
The HMI is a 10 inch version 100 - PN. I am frustrated because I don't have access to the notes where I wrote down the actual number. |
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turbokinetic Junior 2

Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 23
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Posted: 10/03/2014 19:53 Post subject: |
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| rott wrote: | | turbokinetic wrote: | Ok, I went back to the station with this panel and tried to connect Step 7 TIA Portal to the system.
I was able to see and connect to the PLC and HMI, but the PLC program blocks all had a red X and the system told me I needed Step 7 V.11, instead of V.12. So I am installing V.11 and will go back tomorrow.
The HMI would not allow any online actions, and showed as a "non programmable" network module.
I'm learning quick that this software is very picky about versions. I probably need to install every version up to the latest.
The HMI is a 10 inch version 100 - PN. I am frustrated because I don't have access to the notes where I wrote down the actual number. |
Probably is a KTP1000 Basic color PN.
Regarding the versions it's true that since SIEMENS started integration of PLC and HMI programming in an IDE there were some problems.. |
You are exactly right, it's a KTP 1000 Basic Color PN
We are trying to locate the original source code from this project, which should help solve this.
I was able to see the PLC and view the program blocks, but was never successful in uploading it into a new Project. The function for that in the Online menu was never active.
In the program, I can see what needs changing to correct the operational problem; however I don't want to take any risks with the system. In other words, if I am not 100% sure I have a valid read-back saved, I don't want to try to change anything.
I think the safest thing to do is to try to get the autentic source program.
Thanks again for all your help! |
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turbokinetic Junior 2

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Posted: 13/03/2014 02:28 Post subject: |
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| Just an update. I was not able to read-back the programs from the panel. I was however, able to get the autentic program source from the panel builder so I have all files and documents. |
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